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[darktable-user] Can't discard history stack
fotografie
2016-10-20 10:06:25 UTC
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Hello

I work with 2.0.6 under Ubuntu 14.04.

I did some wrong settings in the history stack.

Now I want to discard these settings, but DT doesn't do that!?

When I delete the xmp-files, DT rebuilds them at the next startup :'(

How can I get rid of the history stack and how can I produce a different
history stack for each picture?

Thks for your help
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Roman Lebedev
2016-10-20 10:09:33 UTC
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Post by fotografie
Hello
I work with 2.0.6 under Ubuntu 14.04.
I did some wrong settings in the history stack.
Now I want to discard these settings, but DT doesn't do that!?
When I delete the xmp-files, DT rebuilds them at the next startup :'(
The xmp files are merely a backup. All the data is also in the library.db
Post by fotografie
How can I get rid of the history stack and how can I produce a different
history stack for each picture?
Not meant to be recursive, but to discard the history stack you need to
press "discard" in the "History stack" lib in the right sidepanel of Lighttable,
when the image is selected.

It is stated in usermanual, which, i'm sure, you did read:
https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/ch02s03s07.html.php#d0e2731
Post by fotografie
Thks for your help
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Roman.
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Roman Lebedev
2016-10-20 10:32:27 UTC
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Please do reply to the list.
Thanks for the fast answer!
First of all - of course I read the manual - and looked for a solution
in the internet, before boring you with this question :-;-)
When I press the "discard - button" in the lighttable nothing happens!
It does not matter whether I select one or a 1000 pics. When I switch
over to the darkroom the the history stack is present!
I opened DT, discarded the history stack, closed DT and opened it again.
History Stack is there.
Maybe it is because I work with the gernan version of DT?
Is there a chance to change the language to English to prove whether
there's a problem with the discard function or with the translation?
Thks in advance
Post by Roman Lebedev
Post by fotografie
Hello
I work with 2.0.6 under Ubuntu 14.04.
I did some wrong settings in the history stack.
Now I want to discard these settings, but DT doesn't do that!?
When I delete the xmp-files, DT rebuilds them at the next startup :'(
The xmp files are merely a backup. All the data is also in the library.db
Post by fotografie
How can I get rid of the history stack and how can I produce a different
history stack for each picture?
Not meant to be recursive, but to discard the history stack you need to
press "discard" in the "History stack" lib in the right sidepanel of Lighttable,
when the image is selected.
https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/ch02s03s07.html.php#d0e2731
Post by fotografie
Thks for your help
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Ulf Richter
Roman.
Post by fotografie
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fotografie
2016-10-20 10:49:52 UTC
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-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
Betreff: Re: [darktable-user] Can't discard history stack
Datum: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 13:32:27 +0300
Von: Roman Lebedev <***@gmail.com>
An: fotografie <***@ulf-richter.de>, darktable-user
<darktable-***@lists.darktable.org>



Please do reply to the list.
Thanks for the fast answer!
First of all - of course I read the manual - and looked for a solution
in the internet, before boring you with this question :-;-)
When I press the "discard - button" in the lighttable nothing happens!
It does not matter whether I select one or a 1000 pics. When I switch
over to the darkroom the the history stack is present!
I opened DT, discarded the history stack, closed DT and opened it again.
History Stack is there.
Maybe it is because I work with the gernan version of DT?
Is there a chance to change the language to English to prove whether
there's a problem with the discard function or with the translation?
Thks in advance
Post by Roman Lebedev
Post by fotografie
Hello
I work with 2.0.6 under Ubuntu 14.04.
I did some wrong settings in the history stack.
Now I want to discard these settings, but DT doesn't do that!?
When I delete the xmp-files, DT rebuilds them at the next startup :'(
The xmp files are merely a backup. All the data is also in the library.db
Post by fotografie
How can I get rid of the history stack and how can I produce a different
history stack for each picture?
Not meant to be recursive, but to discard the history stack you need to
press "discard" in the "History stack" lib in the right sidepanel of Lighttable,
when the image is selected.
https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/ch02s03s07.html.php#d0e2731
Post by fotografie
Thks for your help
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Ulf Richter
Roman.
Post by fotografie
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Roman Lebedev
2016-10-20 12:46:48 UTC
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Then i'd suggest re-reading
https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/ch03s02.html.php#pixelpipe
and
https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/ch03s03s03.html.php

TLDR: that is normal, you should not try to get empty history stack.
Post by fotografie
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Betreff: Re: [darktable-user] Can't discard history stack
Datum: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 13:32:27 +0300
Please do reply to the list.
Thanks for the fast answer!
First of all - of course I read the manual - and looked for a solution
in the internet, before boring you with this question :-;-)
When I press the "discard - button" in the lighttable nothing happens!
It does not matter whether I select one or a 1000 pics. When I switch
over to the darkroom the the history stack is present!
I opened DT, discarded the history stack, closed DT and opened it again.
History Stack is there.
Maybe it is because I work with the gernan version of DT?
Is there a chance to change the language to English to prove whether
there's a problem with the discard function or with the translation?
Thks in advance
Post by Roman Lebedev
Post by fotografie
Hello
I work with 2.0.6 under Ubuntu 14.04.
I did some wrong settings in the history stack.
Now I want to discard these settings, but DT doesn't do that!?
When I delete the xmp-files, DT rebuilds them at the next startup :'(
The xmp files are merely a backup. All the data is also in the library.db
Post by fotografie
How can I get rid of the history stack and how can I produce a different
history stack for each picture?
Not meant to be recursive, but to discard the history stack you need to
press "discard" in the "History stack" lib in the right sidepanel of Lighttable,
when the image is selected.
https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/ch02s03s07.html.php#d0e2731
Post by fotografie
Thks for your help
--
Mit freundlichem Gruß
Ulf Richter
Roman.
Post by fotografie
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Frank J.
2016-10-23 09:37:45 UTC
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Am 20.10.2016 um 12:32 schrieb ...:
...
Is there a chance to change the language to English to prove whether
there's a problem with the discard function or with the translation?
...
Ulf Richter
If you don't use an icon but a command:
$ export LANGUAGE=en_EN.UTF-8 && darktable

DT will start once with an english GUI.
The results will be the same, but it's easier to tell here about it.

To switch permanently you can set:

$ echo "ui_last/gui_language=de_DE.utf8" >>
~/.config/darktable/darktablerc && darktable

$ echo "ui_last/gui_language=en_EN.utf8" >>
~/.config/darktable/darktablerc && darktable

Frank
Stéphane Gourichon
2016-10-23 12:56:54 UTC
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Darktable users are discussing on a bar mailing-list.
Post by Frank J.
$ export LANGUAGE=en_EN.UTF-8 && darktable
Captain Technically-true-but-practically-useless says:

"en_EN.UTF-8 is not a correct locale name. en_US.UTF-8 and en_GB.UTF-8
are correct."

Though I'm not sure if he's actually right, let alone if people care.

Anyway, Captain Practical enters the bar mailing-list and says:

"Simply do

export LANGUAGE=C ; darktable

which means "don't try to even translate anything, even in any English
variant"
or even

export LC_ALL=C ; darktable

to let everything (not just strings, but also number formatting
conventions, etc) get basic untranslated processing.

(For people who don't know the origin of the joke, those captains are
family members of Captain Obvious
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CaptainObvious )

My two cents.
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Jean-Luc CECCOLI
2016-10-20 18:50:42 UTC
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Hello,

 

If working on a single picture, just select the first line at the bottom of the stack then click "compress history" and you're done : the whole stack is being deleted.
If you applied wrong settings to a module say, in the middle of the stack, go to the top of the stack, then invoque the module once more with the right settings, then click on to "compress history".

 

J.-Luc

 

 

 

 
Message du 20/10/16 12:05
De : "fotografie"
Objet : [darktable-user] Can't discard history stack
Hello
I work with 2.0.6 under Ubuntu 14.04.
I did some wrong settings in the history stack.
Now I want to discard these settings, but DT doesn't do that!?
When I delete the xmp-files, DT rebuilds them at the next startup :'(
How can I get rid of the history stack and how can I produce a different
history stack for each picture?
Thks for your help
--
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Ulf Richter
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Scott
2016-10-20 20:11:05 UTC
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I always like to compress my history stacks after I finish editing.
Sometimes I forget. I'm curious if there is a way to compress all history
stacks of all images in the database (or those selected)? Maybe with a lua
script?
Post by Jean-Luc CECCOLI
Hello,
If working on a single picture, just select the first line at the bottom
of the stack then click "compress history" and you're done : the whole
stack is being deleted.
If you applied wrong settings to a module say, in the middle of the stack,
go to the top of the stack, then invoque the module once more with the
right settings, then click on to "compress history".
J.-Luc
Message du 20/10/16 12:05
Objet : [darktable-user] Can't discard history stack
Hello
I work with 2.0.6 under Ubuntu 14.04.
I did some wrong settings in the history stack.
Now I want to discard these settings, but DT doesn't do that!?
When I delete the xmp-files, DT rebuilds them at the next startup :'(
How can I get rid of the history stack and how can I produce a different
history stack for each picture?
Thks for your help
--
Mit freundlichem Gruß
Ulf Richter
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Niranjan Rao
2016-10-20 20:55:33 UTC
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In lighttable screen, there is history stack menu which has discard
button. Perhaps this is what you are looking for?

Regards,

Niranjan
Post by Scott
I always like to compress my history stacks after I finish editing.
Sometimes I forget. I'm curious if there is a way to compress all
history stacks of all images in the database (or those selected)?
Maybe with a lua scri
Scott
2016-10-20 21:06:33 UTC
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No, I don't want to discard the history stacks of all/selected images, I
just want to compress them.

It doesn't really matter as compressing the history stack doesn't really do
anything to the resulting image. It's just one of those things that
annoying me to have one longer than "needed". I wish there was a "super
compress" that woukd not only compress it but also remove all modules that
are turned off. I do though understand why they don't delete those by
default when compression though.
Post by Niranjan Rao
In lighttable screen, there is history stack menu which has discard
button. Perhaps this is what you are looking for?
Regards,
Niranjan
Post by Scott
I always like to compress my history stacks after I finish editing.
Sometimes I forget. I'm curious if there is a way to compress all history
stacks of all images in the database (or those selected)? Maybe with a lua
scri
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